Sunday, August 29, 2010

Just do it. Or not.

"If she's amazing, she won't be easy.
If she's easy, she won't be amazing.
If she's worth it, you won't give up.
If you give up, you're not worthy!"
The above quote makes a lot of sense to me.
It is, thus, a little strange that it was the caption on a picture of a girl with her friends in a highly, yet typically, photo shopped picture where you can't even tell what she really looks like. There were a lot of "<3"'s and  a lot of "XOXOXO"'s too. Though I bet when she would have said it, she would have ended it with a "Muah" or a "ILY" or something else nauseating. 
I'm not judging though.
So, this quote. It makes me wonder. 
People have asked me what I think of the whole "girl asking out the guy" thing  a.k.a. "girl making the first move" thing  a.k.a. "oh my god she's SO desperate" thing. I've always been pretty liberal about it, saying it means nothing as to who makes the first move if it ends well (because all's well that end's well), and if it doesn't, well then, the girl and the guy are going to have to deal with injured hearts and probably won't have the time to care who started what. If it ends really really badly, like where they don't talk for a month sometime after it ends (I'm afraid i know what that feels like), then it can just be used as ammo to hate or be cruel to that person.
However, seeing as I'm pretty much the most fickle person I've ever met in my life, it's no surprise that I'm now questioning my stand.
In many situations, when a girl will ask me for advice as to whether she should go ahead and ask out the guy she likes, or wait for him to ask her out, I might actually say she should make the first move. This will NOT be for the following reasons:
  • Because I want her to humiliate herself
  • Because the guy she wants to ask out apparently likes me, and I want to use his answer to her proposal as a test of whether that rumour is true or not
  • Because I'm dating him in secret and I want to know whether he's going to go behind my back and take advantage of the fact that we're keeping our relationship hidden and perhaps check if he's using that technique to date multiple women at the same time
  • Because she's a bitch and I just want her to get red faced for once in her luck filled life
  • Because I'm stupid
It might, however, be for the following reasons:


  • Because I believe, in that particular situation, it won't make her look bad
  • Because I know she's the kind of person to take rejection in her stride
  • Because I'm overconfident, and rightly so, about a positive response
  • Because I know the guy and he's told me that he's too shy to ask her out and wishes she'd do something
  • Because I know the guy and he's told me that he's too shy to ask her out and wished she'd do something, and also told me that he would never ever use the fact that she asked him out against her, ever
  • Because I know I'm in an environment where this sort of thing is cool and totally acceptable
  • Because I know, whatever the outcome, the guy has enough respect for her wishes to keep his mouth shut if she wants him to 
  • Because I know that he just hasn't noticed her, not because he chose not to, but because he hasn't been in a situation where he could have though she thinks he pointedly ignored her             
But at the end of the day, if some of us can get guys to make the first move, then why can't all of us?
And as for guys, making the first move is the more manly thing to do, so there shouldn't be a problem there. Plus, later in life, telling your kids, or other people that the girl made the first move may make the girl want to not tell the story at all and that's just not going to help anything.
I don't think it means a girl is arrogant if she waits for the guy to go first. She's just doing what she believes is right, or what she knows she deserves. If the guy doesn't think she deserves that then he won't do anything, and hopefully neither will she, and life will go on.
I don't know.
All this sounds a little odd.

I think it may even depend on what kind of an environment you're surrounded by, you know? Which school, even. Guys and people in general have different beliefs depending on which school you're from. People try and deny that "my school defines who I am", but I'm afraid it's true. To some extent or the other, the person one turns out to be is affected by the school which they attended. However, I'm speaking as someone who spent her whole life in one school, and, thus, had no other option but to fall in love with it....eventually.
I still don't know which side I support though. I still don't know the answer I'll give you the next time you ask me what to do.

I'm quite sure I've been in this fix too, at some point in my life.

Check this:

Abhinandan: "I don't see the problem in a simple 'Waddup'.
Me: But it isn't just a 'Waddup', it signifies so much more.
Abhinandan: That you're bored?
Me: Screw you and tell me what to do.                                                                                           
I also wonder how I would be able to justify my actions to my best friends, Sonia and Arpita. They're going to ask me why I did it, and when I tell them I made the decision without asking them, or worse, after asking someone other than them, they're probably not going to be too pleased.
 
But, they needn't worry, for whenever I consider asking other people it always just ends up with me asking them and basing my decision on what we decide in unison, rather than what anyone else thought.

God, I'm so fucking fickle.

Hm, what do you think?

10 comments:

  1. Have you seen or read ' He's just not that into you'? I guess the girl making the first move is okay, but you know she shouldn't ALWAYS be initiating. Sometimes, the guy should too. And besides, if a guy does like a girl, or wants to just get to know her, he will do something about it. The fact that he hasn't said anything, or done anything just signifies that he's not interested, no?

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  2. Precisely.
    Sigh, if only I had the gift of brevity.
    I haven't seen the movie but I agree with you anyhow. I will see it soon, though.

    Next time someone's in that situation I suppose I'll just tell them that.

    I must play devil's advocate her and ask you:
    What if he's made a lot of the first moves, then if the girl makes another is that alright?

    That sounds a lil strange though because a first move has to be, well, first.

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  3. Okay I'm no dating guru, but yes. It's very normal for a girl to make a move after the guy has made one or several moves. If she doesn't, the guy will just interpret that as a lack of interest and will move on to someone who he thinks will reciprocate.

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  4. Haha, neither am I : )
    Clearly.

    And yeah, I concur. I was just making sure my belief system isn't totally out of whack.

    And, thanks for reading : )

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  5. I personally don't think there's anything wrong with the girl making the first move...I've had that done on my twice....creeped me out.

    Here's the deal-

    If a really attractive girl, one who I didn't know at all asked me out, I'd think it was a joke, a prank, a conspiracy.

    But if I knew her, and got along with her, I'd be very pleased.......but somewhere at the back of my head I'd feel like someone chopped my bollocks off, because she beat me to it.


    The whole concept of dating itself is soooo different in different societies, it's hard that way.

    I being me, LOVE the chase...so much so I wish it never ends and it gets steamier as we go alone. Once it's over I've asked myself "Damn what now?"

    I'd love to talk to you about this in detail.

    AND I DISAGREE WITH DISHARI UP THERE. Besides It's very rare that the girl is always initiating something....the ones I know who do are a riot, I wish i was in love with them damnnit.

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  6. And yeah the title is very misleading and ambiguous haha.

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  7. You don't have a problem with it?
    Surprise surprise : P

    "I've had that done on my twice"- WHAT?

    Hmm, yeah, the chase is fun, but sometimes it stops there and that can seem a little too dead-end. It should always be followed by something so much better, so much more satisfying.

    We shall talk about it.
    Someway or the other.
    Not if your replies remain so short, though ;)

    I actually hope Dishari is wrong in her last comment because sometimes the girl is just playing hard to get, to test his ...uh, devotion.

    Ah, giving titles is the best part : )

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  8. AND, yeah, dating in different worlds is different. Poles apart.

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  9. satisfying? It always ends in satisfaction. I don't give up. I don't stop the chase until it ends in a very big climax...looool

    I meant " I've had that done on to me twice" Sorry.

    I'll talk about it...if you start with the topic....go on make the first move ;)

    It's the ones who play hard to get that i have the most fun with...haha.

    Giving titles is a lot like icing the cake.

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  10. LOL, climax.

    And no it doesn't always end in satisfaction. If that was the case life would be just awesome. But that isn't the case and, thus, we have to MAKE life awesome.

    Haha, no. I ain't making no first moves : )

    Playing hard to get is amusing. For the player and the playee.

    For me, an idea to write something often starts just because I think of a title. For instance, "The Break Up".

    Read it.

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